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How ADHD Influences Your Relationship with Food and Body with Aleta Storch, RD, LMHC

Today, we’re diving into the tangled relationship between ADHD and our struggles with food and body image. Here’s the truth—people with ADHD are four times more likely to develop an eating disorder. And it’s a cycle that can feel impossible to break. When eating disorders go untreated, they can make ADHD symptoms even worse. And when ADHD isn’t managed, it can wreak havoc on our relationship with food and our bodies.
And I don’t think think eating disorder treatment world is talking about this overlap enough, nor is it adequately addressing the needs of folks who have both ADHD and disordered eating. This lack of recognition keeps so many of us trapped in a cycle of shame and confusion because the core issues driving the ED aren’t being addressed. For so many of us, this is the missing puzzle piece in understanding and healing our relationship with food and our bodies, especially if we’ve been fighting this battle for what feels like forever and can’t seem to get traction in recovery.
 
Guest Bio
Aleta Storch (she/her) is a Dietitian, Therapist, and Certified Body Trust® Provider, and a leading expert in the field of ADHD nutrition. She specializes in providing neurodivergent-affirming, values-centered, body liberation work with folks that have ADHD, disordered eating / a history of dieting, and autoimmune conditions. Aleta is the owner and founder of a virtual group practice, Wise Heart Nutrition. She is also the creator of the groundbreaking, Eating with ADHD® approach and the monthly membership program, Neurished, which she developed as a resource for supporting ADHDers in understanding their brain and breaking out of the chaos in order to find more freedom and joy, and make lasting changes in their relationship with food and eating. 
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
Aleta’s shares her process of arriving at the specialization of neurodivergent friendly and weight inclusive lens in her practice as a dietitian and therapist
Aleta introduces her brain story and her own experience with ADHD and its unique impact to her relationship with her body and food
Defining what a brain story is and how it can intersect with our body story
The process of getting diagnosed with ADHD and the grief that can come up with this diagnosis and acceptance, validation that can come with receiving that diagnosis as well 
How the systems can make neurodivergent folks feel that their brain is wrong or broken and instead reframing that the world doesn’t make room for those neurodivergent brains to exist
The systems that make it challenging for folks to receive an accurate diagnosis
How the broadened definition of what ADHD is and who has ADHD has helped people identify their neurodivergence.
How ADHD symptoms and presentation can change and shift over time as we grow older
The role of hyperfixation, disorganization, and emotion dysregulation within ADHD that can influence relationship with bodies and food
Exploring the research that people with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) have nearly four times the risk of developing an eating disorder when compared to their peers. 
Identifying the components about ADHD increase that risk for developing a disordered relationship with food and body, potentially progressing into an eating disorder
The role of dopamine in the brain and how it impacts the relationship with food and body
Disputing the narrative of food addiction as it relates to the dopamine narrative
 
Connect with Aleta:
Aleta’s Practice: https://www.wiseheartnutrition.com/
Aleta’s resources for those with ADHD: https://www.wiseheartnutrition.com/ADHD
Neurished program: https://www.wiseheartnutrition.com/neurished
Aleta’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_adhd_rd/
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Reclaiming Movement in Toxic Fitness Culture with Dr. Rachel Millner

Today we explore the transformative journey of reclaiming movement. Our guest, Rachel Millner, an Eating Disorder Psychologist specializing in Body Trust, Joyful Movement, and Fat Activism, sheds light on the profound impact of systemic fatphobia in fitness and wellness spaces, and she articulates how mainstream fitness fails to consider diverse body types, leaving many individuals feeling unseen and unwelcome. We talk about how she’s advocating for body diversity in fitness instructors, what it means to reclaim movement and how not everyone is ready to incorporate that back into their life. Rachel guides us through the process of tuning into ourselves and embracing movement as a form of liberation. Through the lens of fat activism Rachel offers invaluable insights and practical strategies for listeners on their journey towards reclaiming movement and cultivating a positive relationship with their bodies. Join us as we navigate the complexities of body image struggles and toxic fitness spaces. We also talk about how the trauma field is stigmatizing larger bodied people and how we can challenge this narrative. Rachel shares briefly about her other primary focus points in her activism such as the American Academy of Pediatrics standards of care for larger bodied kids and the nuanced conversation about the weight loss injectables, or GLP-1s. 
Guest Bio
Rachel Millner (she/her) is a psychologist, Certified Eating Disorder Specialist and Supervisor, and a Certified Body Trust® provider. Throughout her career, Rachel has dedicated herself to assisting individuals grappling with various forms of eating disorders and disordered eating, as well as those seeking liberation from the constraints of diet culture. She perceives her role as both therapist and activist, guiding her clients through healing within the therapeutic space while advocating for broader societal change to deconstruct diet culture and combat fat phobia.
Rachel's approach is grounded in trauma-informed care, fat positivity, anti-diet principles, and informed by feminist theory, relational theory, social justice, and body liberation. She staunchly opposes the promotion of diets or weight loss, viewing such practices as not only harmful but unethical. Many of Rachel's clients have endured extensive histories of dieting, with some continuing to pursue such practices upon seeking her guidance. She prioritizes creating a safe environment where clients feel heard and validated, engaging with them in the complexities and difficulties of their experiences. Central to Rachel's philosophy is a belief in body autonomy, advocating for the right of each individual to make decisions regarding their own body without judgment or coercion.
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
Rachel’s body story and her disordered relationship with movement and how she found loving movement on Peloton
The exploration of fitness culture and how weight stigma shows up in those spaces
The challenges Rachel has found in her activism, navigating fitness spaces in a fat body, and how fat community has been essential to her process
How the movement component of recovery can actually be more challenging than healing ones relationship with food
The value in taking a break from movement and factors to consider when adding movement back into their recovery
How to self-reflect and tune in to your body to determine your relationship with movement
The permission to take  the pressure off for movement to feel joyful all the time
How the trauma field and the ACE Study is rooted in anti fatness
How trauma field perpetuates the trauma of weight stigma, specifically for those living in larger bodies 
Rachel’s necessity for nuance in trauma work and importance that fatness is not pathology
Rachel’s concern about the American Academy of Pediatrics standards for working with higher weight kids - horrifically fucked up 
How bariatric surgery is removal of an essential and otherwise healthy organ
Rachel’s concern about the promotion of injectable medications (GLP-1s)  Medications like Ozempic and Mounjaro and its impact on the body liberation movement.  
Rachels’ caution about the need for nuance in the conversation about GLP-1s specifically for those with medical conditions that required for management of their health condition and feeling shamed 
We don’t end weight stigma by stigmatizing people 
“People who are invested in profiting off of these medications or diet programs are coming from the perspective that it’s better to be dead than fat. They are willing to risk the lives of fat people, the possibility of making someone who’s fat into a thin person is worth the risk.”
 
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Website: https://www.rachelmillnertherapy.com/ 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drrachelmillner/
Rachel’s Blog: “How the Trauma Field is Traumatizing Higher Weight People”: https://www.rachelmillnertherapy.com/blog/874947-how-the-trauma-field-is-traumatizing-higher-weight-people 
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Giving Yourself Permission for Pleasure with Dr. Brittney Ellers

In today’s episode we’re talking about our pelvis with pelvic health expert and physical therapist, Dr. Brittney Ellers. In this enlightening conversation, we explore the often overlooked realm of pelvic health, addressing common misconceptions, and shedding light on the importance of connecting with this aspect of our bodies. Whether you're seeking to enhance your understanding of pelvic health or are on a personal journey towards restoration, this episode serves as a beacon of guidance and support. Tune in as we uncover the keys to achieving holistic well-being and reclaiming control over your pelvic health. Get ready to embark on a transformative journey towards empowerment and vitality.
Guest Bio
Dr. Brittney Ellers is a holistic pelvic physical therapist who has dedicated her life to breaking the chains of silence surrounding this vital aspect of well-being. With a doctorate in physical therapy, Brittney discovered her calling when she navigated the profound healing of her own menstrual cycle and pelvic floor pain, transcending the shadows of shame around sex, body, and pleasure. She firmly believes that the pelvis is the root, the center for life, creativity, and confidence. Through her expertise, she'll guide you gracefully through life’s evolving seasons with ease, helping you embody the brightest version of yourself. Meet In her private practice, Dr. Ellers has become a beacon of light, empowering hundreds of clients to overcome pelvic health issues and reclaim their lives with joy. Her mission is clear: tackle the "taboo," openly educate about pelvic issues, and guide others towards healing and creating a profound connection with yourself, inside and out, embracing both your pussy and heart (YES, we're reclaiming this word!).
 
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
Brittney’s body story and how it led her to reconnect with her body, pleasure, and joy.
Exploring the messages of stigma and shame around sexuality that interrupt embodiment
We define what’s included in the concept pelvic health
Tips and exercises to connect with our pelvis in a more empowered and attuned way
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Website: www.brittneyellers.com
IG: www.instagram.com/b.ellers
Moonlit Muse Rituals E-book: https://www.brittneyellers.com/moonlit-muse-ritual-e-book
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Envisioning Liberatory Care within Eating Disorder Treatment with Dr. Jennie Wang-Hall

Today we have Dr. Jennie Wang-Hall on the pod, a licensed eating disorder psychologist in California where we discuss anti-careral and liberatory eating disorder treatment. Jennie and Cassie explore the necessary shift to a more agentic and empowering form of eating disorder treatment. They unpack the ways in which traditional eating disorder treatment and mental health care can be carceral and paternalized. Jennie weaves together the web of systems into how she engages in her practice. 
Guest Bio
Dr. Jennie Wang-Hall is a licensed psychologist in California who has treated eating disorders at all levels of care since 2011. Jennie is passionate about community building and social justice education for providers looking to learn about liberatory care. Working in various treatment centers and teams with differing approaches, Dr. Wang-Hall has trained in a multitude of approaches and has witnessed the utility and futility of various modalities. These experiences have led her to an eclectic and client centered lens that facilitates empowerment and agency in ED recovery. Core to Dr. Wang-Hall’s approach is attunement to systems of oppression that manifest in both the development and treatment of eating disorders. She integrates attention to ableism, white supremacy, misogyny, cis heterosexism, capitalism, and settler colonialism in her care of individuals from all backgrounds struggling with eating disorders. Serving on the Board of Body Reborn is a profound privilege that represents Jennie's commitment to creating accessible, compassionate care for everyone.
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
Jennie’s body story and her emphasis on lived and living experience
How Jennie is challenging the pathologizing that exists within eating disorder treatment providers for those who continue to struggle, instead advancing a non-shaming and destigmatized space for providers
How Jennie’s recovery transformed as she discussed collective liberation work
Exploring and defining abolitionist care, psychiatric abolition, and how it applies to eating disorder treatment
How systems of oppression manifest in how mental health providers are trained and how treatment is delivered within mental health care, specifically eating disorders
How fears of liability within the mental health industrial complex lead to carceral treatment filled with ultimatums, contracts, and policing of symptoms
The freedom and liberation that also is available to mental health providers within this shift in treatment
The value of imagination, creativity, and envisioning care for liberation
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Website: https://revolutionaryedpsychotherapy.com/ 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.jenniewh/?hl=en
Jennie’s Provider Solidarity Group: https://nq9hmnx5.paperform.co/ 
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Making Space for All Bodies with Size Inclusive Yoga with Christy Calahan

Today we talk with registered yoga teacher, Christy Calahan who specializes in educating yoga teachers on plus size inclusivity in their classes and in studios. Yoga can be a way that many folks on their embodiment journeys learn to inhabit their bodies differently and more fully, but there are a lot of body hierarchies in Westernized yoga culture, so I really appreciate all of the work Christy is doing to shift perspectives to make yoga truly more accessible and inclusive for all bodies. 
Guest Bio: 
Christy Calahan is an E-RYT 500 and a yoga educator (YACEP) who specializes in educating yoga teachers on plus size inclusivity in their classes and in studios.
With a teaching journey that began in 2010, Christy spent the majority of her career as a straight-sized yoga instructor. However, a few years ago, she experienced an injury that resulted in a rapid weight gain that had her transition into a larger body.
Navigating the transition of her practice and teaching to her newly plus-size body wasn’t intuitive for Christy. She questioned whether yoga was still feasible for bigger bodied people and contemplated giving up her practice altogether.
Determined to find a solution, Christy embarked on a path of self-discovery, characterized by trial and error, tears, trauma work, frustration, and lots of practice. Through this personal journey, she developed techniques, theories, and methods that are both trauma-sensitive and highly effective.
Drawing from her extensive experience of teaching herself and others, Christy is dedicated to making the yoga community more accessible to individuals with larger bodies. This commitment is the cornerstone of her life's work.
 
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
Christy’s body story and how it impacted her yoga practice and current work as a size inclusive educator
Her frustration with how yoga studios and teacher’s exclusionary culture for size diversity
Christy’s priorities as a size inclusive yoga teacher and her activism through educating other yoga teachers about the importance of size inclusivity
Christy’s issue with the phrase “All bodies are welcome” 
How Christy prioritizes choice and agency in her yoga teaching vs compliance and command
Some of Christy’s practice recommendations for all those in fitness spaces to authentically create space for larger bodied and disabled bodied folks
 
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sizeinclusiveyoga/
Website: https://sizeinclusiveyoga.offeringtree.com/
 
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When Our Partners and Families are Fatphobic: Experiencing Weight Stigma from the People We Love with Becky Belinsky LMFT

Guest Bio
Dr. Becky Belinsky is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California who specializes in working with clients who struggle with eating disorders and any type of food and/or body image related issues. Her approach is size inclusive and fat positive, and she is passionate about exploring the societal and relational factors that contribute to eating disorders and disordered eating. She has conducted research around the intersection of weight stigma, eating disorders, and family relationships, and is also a Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor. In addition to her work around eating disorders, Becky provides psychotherapy for adults, couples, and families around the issues of anxiety and relational challenges.
 
Overview: 
Becky Belinsky is on the show today to talk about her incredible dissertation research: Relationships Harm, Relationships Heal: Exploring Larger Bodied People's Experiences of Weight Stigma and Eating Disorders in the Context of Family Relationships. This study explored the intersection of weight stigma, eating disorders, and family/intimate partner relationships, which sought to understand the intersection of weight stigma, eating disorder development and recovery, and specifically the experience of receiving stigma from family and partners. Our discussion sheds light on the importance of working directly with and combatting weight stigma at the family system and societal levels in order to create more significant and meaningful change for people struggling with eating-related distress, and particularly for people in larger bodies.
 
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
Define internalized and externalized weight stigma
How experiences of weight stigma in our friends and family hurt eating disorder recovery 
How attachment theory and our drive to connect and belong influences our relationships
Boundary setting with those who are antifat, including family and partners
 
Resources Mentioned
Relationships Harm, Relationships Heal: Exploring Larger Bodied People's Experiences of W s Experiences of Weight Stigma and Eating Disorder Stigma and Eating Disorders in the Context of Family Relationships  
Website: www.beckybelinsky.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Dr.BeckyBelinskyLMFT
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/beckybelinskytherapy/
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Intergenerational Trauma and Intergenerational Healing in Eating Disorders with Sam Dylan Finch

Today’s conversation we’re talking with Sam Dylan Finch about his story and its intersection with intergenerational trauma. Sam Dylan Finch is a writer, content strategist, and daydreamer leveraging the power of digital media to inspire hope and challenge stigma. Sam is a recognized and trusted voice within mental health media, having reached millions of readers worldwide after his first of many viral articles back in 2014.
Since then, his unique combination of lived experience and authenticity, alongside his journalistic expertise, has led to memorable, culture-shifting moments across the web.
His work has not only shifted attitudes around LGBTQ+ identity and neurodivergence, but has brought compassionate and necessary depth to many stigmatized conversations and 
 
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
We define what intergenerational trauma and how it’s relevant to the development of eating disorders
Sam’s body story as he’s telling and understanding it today, specifically looking at the development of the eating disorder as a symptom of intergenerational trauma
Exploration of Sam’s family immigration and its involvement in Sam’s development of an eating disorder
We discuss how white folks are divorced from their ancestral and cultural stories and the impact that this has on 
The difference that it made to have a therapist who encouraged Sam to look at his ancestral and family history as a part of his story
Sam’s experience of intellectualizing collective liberation work vs. embodying collective liberation
How Sam once thought that he was “too autistic” for parts work until he tried the Safe and Protocol which made parts work a more embodied experience
Sam’s definition of what it means to take up space to not abandon himself and stay present in the pain and joy in our world
 
Resources Mentioned
Website: https://samdylanfinch.com/
Sam’s Blog: https://letsqueerthingsup.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samdylanfinch/?hl=en
Sam’s Blog “Why I’m Not Fighting My Eating Disorder Anymore”: https://helloalma.com/blog/not-fighting-eating-disorder/
More of Sam’s writing: https://helloalma.com/blog/authors/sam-dylan-finch/
 
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Dismantling Internalized Ageism with Body Liberation with Deb Benfield RD

Overview
Deb invites you to blaze a liberating new path to a respectful, nurturing relationship with your aging body.  She has helped hundreds of women heal their relationship with food, eating, and their bodies in her more than 35-year career as a Registered Dietitian/Nutritionist and Registered Yoga Teacher specializing in preventing and treating disordered eating. Now in her 60s, she focuses her research, training, passion, clinical, and lived experience on the intersection of pro-aging and body liberation. 
Her work is rooted in helping you: Shift your relationship with your body from your life’s project to your life partner; Nourish your body in midlife and beyond to support growing older in alignment with your values; Recognize internalized ageism and end it; Untangle from diet/wellness culture mess, and See midlife and beyond as a time of Emergence and Authenticity. Deb centers accessible practices so you can apply principles to your daily life and experience true transformation. Deb is also a lover of rivers, words, and her kids and grandkids.  She is currently envisioning life as a semi-nomad.
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
Why women in particular can have such a hard time with aging and a changing body
Youthfulness, sexiness, thinness, and the pressure to maintain the body you have as you age
Body changes are normal and protective as we age, but someone women continue to feel as though its a personal failure or inadequacy
The key challenges that people face in embracing aging with vitality while navigating societal pressures and expectations around appearance and wellness
Practical strategies or practices that individuals can incorporate into their daily lives to promote vitality and well-being as they age
Read the Episode Transcript here.
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Website: https://www.debrabenfield.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/agingbodyliberation/ 
Deb offers 1:1 coaching, small group coaching, a membership community, and professional consultation.  
Deb also founded Body in Mind Nutrition, a group practice of big-hearted and highly skilled Registered Dietitians specializing in weight-neutral care and treating eating disorders. 
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Allowing Yourself to Be Seen: Reclaiming Your Body Image through Photography with Lindley Ashline

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Lindley Ashline creates photographs that celebrate the unique beauty of bodies that fall outside conventional "beauty" standards. She fights weight stigma by giving plus-size people a safe place to explore how their bodies look on camera and by increasing the representation of big bodies in photography, advertising, fine art and the world at large. Lindley is also the creator of Body Liberation Stock (body-positive stock images for commercial use) and the Body Love Shop (a curated resource for body-friendly products and artwork). Find Lindley's work and get her free weekly Body Liberation Guide at http://bit.ly/bodyliberationguide.
 
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
Lindley’s story going from corporate America to fat activist
How photography can be a way to reclaim one’s body image
How she creates visibility and representation
The emotional process that can be a part of body liberation photography
The racist roots of “flattering photos”
The importance of connecting with body liberation and fat positive community
Read the episode transcript here. 
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Free weekly Body Liberation Guide http://bit.ly/bodyliberationguide
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bodyliberationwithlindley/
Website: https://bodyliberationphotos.com/links/ 
SEEN Coaching: https://bodyliberationphotos.com/seen/ 
Body Liberation Blanket Fort: https://bodyliberationphotos.com/the-body-liberation-blanket-fort/ 
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Raising Kids Without Diet Culture with Oona Hanson

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Oona Hanson is an educator and parent coach who is passionate about helping parents raise kids who have a healthy relationship with food and their body. She works with parents who are navigating diet culture and anti-fat bias, including those who have a child in treatment for an eating disorder. Oona holds a Master's Degree in Educational Psychology and a Master's Degree in English. Her work has been featured widely, including on CNN, USA Today, Good Morning America, People, and Parents Magazine. She is a mother of two and lives in Los Angeles.
 
Overview: 
In this episode, we delve deep into the realm of parenting without the influence of diet culture with special guest Oona Hanson, a renowned parent coach and advocate for fat positivity. Drawing from her extensive experience and expertise, Oona shares invaluable insights and practical tips on fostering a healthy relationship with food and body in children and teenagers. Throughout the episode, Oona offers tangible strategies for parents to navigate conversations around food, body image, and weight with their children. From promoting intuitive eating to cultivating a positive body image, listeners gain actionable advice on how to create a nurturing environment that prioritizes health and well-being over societal ideals of thinness.
 
In this episode of Taking Up Space, we discussed: 
How to start conversations with our kids about diet culture, bodies, and size
How parents can recognize and address their own biases and attitudes toward food and body image, especially when these may inadvertently affect their children?
What the research actually says about kids in larger bodies and the consequences to their health
How we can help our kids develop resilience with the toxic messages from diet culture and anti-fat bias
The pressure on parents, specifically mothers, around their kid’s body size
How parents and caregivers can model positive self-image and self-care practices for their children, even if they themselves struggle with body image issues or disordered eating
 
Resources Mentioned
Website: https://www.oonahanson.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oona_hanson/
Parenting Without Diet Culture Substack: https://oonahanson.substack.com/
The Myth of the Childhood Obesity Epidemic https://virginiasolesmith.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-the-childhood-obesity?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 
 
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